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#V811 - Episode 11
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DENISE: Is everybody here? We need everyone to participate in this Behind the Scenes thing if people are gonna see what really goes on back here.
NARRATOR: Is there a problem?
DENISE: Not exactly. You have to realize though, that this is a worldwide project.
DENISE: Getting everyone here together at the same time just ain’t happening. So we work over the course of days and weeks, sometimes months to get the scripts turned out. This is pretty much the raw version of what happens on the work list. C’mon. I’ll show you what I mean.
MARCH 03, 2002
CAROL: I had a minor brainstorm today before Denise and I got involved in the scheduling of Season 8. I think that what we need to really show what goes into putting this season together is a "Behind the Making of the Subtext Virtual Season".
I'd like to include:
1) From the conception of the story (beat sheet) to bits and pieces of discussion from the list of an episode with everyone "signing off" on what is used.
2) What it takes for Lucia, Mary and Linda to create their graphics (in other words saving the various versions as you create something and the time and thought behind it).
3) Same thing for Judi, from how she picks the grabs, to the process of taking a raw screen cap and its various stages to the final product.
4) Then onto Denise's and my piece of the puzzle. Showing the different incarnations of the script as I take it from the raw format from the writers to what is posted on the web, to the PDF, eBook versions etc.
NARRATOR: Some things just work better with real live conversation.
DENISE: Speaking of the schedule, pick up the phone. It’s me. <g>
Twelve hours, seven variations and three phone calls later....
CAROL: I think we finally got it. Let’s put it out to the list and see what they think. (This was the first of many revisions to the schedule.)
MARCH 16, 2002
NARRATOR: It all starts with a story idea... and those start early. The team was still working on Season 7 when discussion about Season 8 began.
TNOVAN: Is there anything I need to do for the season?
DENISE: Not for this season, but I’ve got a thought about the next one. <g>
DENISE: We need a good conqueror story. And I would really like for us to show how Ares got caught in the tomb.
DENISE: Ok, so we already have a conqueror script, a Sappho story, and Ares entombment slated for next season. Anybody up for a musical, or a pirate adventure? <g>
MARCH 28, 2002
NARRATOR: And sometimes things are discussed and decided more than once, and enhanced in the process.
TNOVAN: We had been kicking around ideas for season 8 and two stories were mentioned....a piece that explains why Ares got caught in the tomb and a Conqueror piece...Missy made comment that she'd like to do the Ares piece because Rob had a story he had wanted to do...Sue said she'd like to do the Conqueror piece. I mentioned at the time I had been tinkering with a Sappho piece since I found out we couldn't use LC. The Sappho piece just wrote itself...I did both parts in about 3 days.
Now the script is done and I know that we're kinda sorta behind on a couple pieces so the suggestion was made to slip it in since it's complete and the work can be done for grabs and art. I am now attaching the files so it can be read...it's in two parts...part 2 runs a little short but I can't really see adding any scenes to it because they would just be filler for the most part.
JUNE 26, 2002
NARRATOR: But communication is key regardless.
DENISE: I thought Missy was writing the Ares ep to show how he was entombed. Has that changed?
TNOVAN: Yeah I remembered that being tossed out when we talked about the new season. I was under the impression that we had three stories, the Sappho piece, Ares in the tomb by Missy and a Conqueror piece by Sue
LUCIA: As from my part I don't have any problems with Ares, and also I think we could really do an episode with him as a homage to Kevin Smith.
CAROL: That's what I thought also and I'd actually like to see the episode as a tribute to Kevin.
TNOVAN: I agree Lucia, we could do two things...close up yet another gaping hole in overall storyline and give tribute to Kevin for all he gave the show and the fandom.
JUDI: I think it would be a nice gesture to honor Kevin also
MISSY: Yeap… that's the case. I did say I would write that one.
LINDA: Sounds like a real nice idea <g>.
JULY 03, 2002
NARRATOR: As questions and ideas for the story come up, they are brought to the floor for discussion.
MARYD: Missy, just an idea but can you clear up Xena's parentage with the Ares script you are writing?
MISSY: I can - if we decide who that is. (g) You're not gonna make ME do it. Do you want me to ask?
The Ares ep will have Ares showing up at the end of Sue's second ep and snatching the chakkie - then I was going to have him separate the chakkie in an attempt to get the dark half back to Xena to recapture her for Ares. (Have to get that original chakkie back somehow)
I wanted to have the question 'does Xena lust and love Ares' answered once and for all, preferably with a nice long kiss between X and G in front of him.
Xena decides to entomb Ares because she knows his time is at an end, the gods are all gone, and all he can bring is death and destruction to anyone he approaches. Ares contention is that without him, humans will just slaughter each other willy nilly, which is the absolute truth as it turns out, but Xena doesn't know that.
Couple things. I thought
that Ares was going to come upon your antihero/hero from Fallen, see
Xena's chakram, and beat the living crud out of him and take it back.
That way we can keep the chakkie away from the first two eps, if that
works better, with Ares just having it to himself instead of Xena losing
her Chakram yet again. <G>
MISSY: The Ares beating up whatshisface sounds fine to me.
Ares was needed when the Olympians were around, because there was all kinds of stuff going on with the gods. Now, the Olympians are gone, and that era is over. Ares is a vestige of it, and what he's doing is struggling to return to his glory days.
It's kind of sad, in a way. But he is willing to go to any lengths to get his power (followers, not godhood) back and maybe he does go a little nuts over it. Xena has to put him out of his misery in a way - I want the ep to be both an explanation of why she did it, and also a little tragic, because she had to.
This is true, but she sent him
back to Olympus, godhood restored, in You Are There because the world
still needed a balance between love and war, so it's gonna have to be
something big that causes her to deliberately UNDO her giving him the
JUDI: Remember Missy you promised to get rid of the tattoo also <g>.
MISSY: Yes, but that was before she watched Gab go through Helicon, and before he seduced Varia, and before Xena died in FIN and came back again. She's been giving Ares chances for seven years, and now his attempt to break her chakkie and make her his acolyte again I think is just the straw that breaks the llama's back.
Xena has to realize that as long as Ares is around, he will NEVER let her live in peace. He will never let THEM live in peace. That for me - is enough, a very personal reason for Xena to do what she does to him. I want it to be personal to her - I am not sure I want this to be a question of the greater good. Yes, it will be for the greater good, but I want Xena to be doing it for her and for Gabrielle.
SUE: You know, I never thought of that. It's absolutely perfect.
MARYD: I actually like the tattoo. Why is Missy going to get rid of it?
MISSY: For me - it is because that tattoo in a way was given to Gabrielle to replace the thing that was her ultimate protection prior to FIN - Xena. So it annoys me.
I think I was going to find a way for her to trade it in return for Xena's restored chakkie or something. Maybe I can have Ares set a trap for Xena, have Gab fall into it, and the price for her recovery is to lose the tattoo. I will see - I do remember I promised to get rid of the darn thing, if for no other reason than to give Lucia a break. (g)
JULY 15, 2002
NARRATOR: New ideas continue to be brought up.
DENISE: I kinda threw this idea at Missy this weekend, to see if she'd be willing to write it if ya'll are good to go with it. (She said yes, btw)
Anyway, remembering the theme of Fallen, and how Xena thinks she might have lost a step or two....I would like to see another ep play into this theme, especially since it was never resolved. Something along the lines of Helicon, but have it be Xena that is in trouble and Gabrielle that has to save her. It could be something we could use to up the angst between them a bit as well.
Comments? It might be better if Missy explains what we discussed. We all know how clear I am sometimes.
MISSY: (Life’s Little Challenges – Take 1) Actually - the story idea came about when we were discussing Helicon, and how much better a story that might have been if Gabrielle had been forced to tie a personal motive to it rather than having her put the Amazons at the castle just because.
For instance - what if her conflict had been that Xena had been taken by B-whatever, since he was a demigod, and could conceivably have overpowered her. What if Gab had to risk the Amazons dying because she had to get into that castle to get Xena? I thought that this conflict would have produced the soul rending that Rob was looking for with this story idea, and it would be more believable.
So - if we continue the Fallen theme a bit, we could do a story where something does happen to Xena, and she does get bushwhacked by a zillion Spartans or whatever it would take to overcome her, and Gab is put into the position of being forced to come to her rescue instead of the other way round. I would have to come up with a substitute for the Amazons, since we put them in a safe place, but I think it would be an interesting story to have her in a position of having to make the hard choice, for the most personal of reasons.
JULY 16, 2002
(Magic in the Air - Take 1)
X/G are traveling through a supposedly 'enchanted' forest. It's an old
story that none one particularly believes but oh what the hell... So
they bed down for the night and when they wake up they are no longer
JULY 17, 2002
NARRATOR: The season starts early for the staff.
SUE: (Virtual Reality – Part 1) Tentative title Virtual Reality. I have come up with an idea for the test of the Virtue "Hope", and yes, it does involve Hope.
(Virtual Reality – Part 1)
Ok, talking with Carol this evening, we came up with another idea.
Carol's idea was that one of the things that Xena needs to regain hope
for (or even GAIN hope for) is her hope for the future for her and
Gabrielle. As she's said countless times, she doesn't expect to grow
old. Warriors never do.
SUE: (Virtual Reality – Part 1) The Charity one made me think of a story.... which is also a love for ones self and a love for one's neighbor, but for Xena's purposes, a love for one's self, which I think she has a real problem with.
TNOVAN: (Magic in the Air - Take 2) Okay guys, I've been thinking on this long and hard. Trying to figure out how to make this story work. Here's what I've come up with. I was rather fond of the first pitch, but as always I try to find a happy medium that works for everyone. I don't think this one will have the angst of the first pitch, but it very true to the early days. <G>
JULY 18, 2002
NARRATOR: Title graphics begin to come into play once the artist has a clear idea where the story is headed.
MARYD: Prelim - Title graphic: First episode - Mark 1. This is for the first ep - I need a name for it to put the title on it.
MARYD: Revised (Virtual Reality – Part 1). Added the title graphic and made some cosmetic changes <g>
SUE: (Virtual Reality – Part 1) Ok, here's the teaser out for ya'll to read and comment on.
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